Comments on: Weekly Topic: Cedar Fair, the new company to hate http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/ The latest news from the amusement industry Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:19:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Nate http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60328 Nate Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:44:50 +0000 http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60328 Hey Kat, yes Cedar Fair owns Cedar Point. Can can view all of the properties Cedar Fair owns at www.CedarFair.com Hey Kat, yes Cedar Fair owns Cedar Point. Can can view all of the properties Cedar Fair owns at www.CedarFair.com

]]> By: Kat http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60322 Kat Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:07:13 +0000 http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60322 hey im coaster worshiper but nobody answers thi Question DOES CEDER FAIR OWN CEDAR POINT????? thanks if you answer hey im coaster worshiper but nobody answers thi Question DOES CEDER FAIR OWN CEDAR POINT????? thanks if you answer

]]> By: Gil http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60305 Gil Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:49:16 +0000 http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60305 Cedar Fair has 2 big problems in Northeast Ohio, the primary market for Wildwater Kingdom and a key market for Cedar Point. They have done virtually no damage control and seem bent on making things worse. 1) They are on the verge of destroying the 1925 Big Dipper, the 12th oldest operating wood roller coaster in the world. They have it on the auction block for June 17-18 and have been insulting dismissive of ACE's plan to save it on site, as summarized here on CNN's irreport site along with some historic pictures of Big Dipper: http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-4020 2) By closing Geauga Lake after the season ended and without prior notice, they departed from the long-standing pattern of giving a month or more warning of a park closing (Astroworld, Erieview, Myrtle Beach Pavilion, Euclid Beach), despite making media statements last Spring that "the rumors of the demise of Geauga Lake, or that we're slowly phasing it out, are completely untrue" and "Geauga Lake is here to stay." There is strong resentment over this in the NE Ohio general public. The situation would improve if Cedar Fair takes steps to seriously consider the ACE idea to preserve the Big Dipper on site along with the Geauga Lake ballroom as an amusement park museum to complement a shopping/entertainment area. On the other hand, if Big Dipper is destroyed, the resulting backlash will make the negatively to date look mild. Cedar Fair has 2 big problems in Northeast Ohio, the primary market for Wildwater Kingdom and a key market for Cedar Point. They have done virtually no damage control and seem bent on making things worse.

1) They are on the verge of destroying the 1925 Big Dipper, the 12th oldest operating wood roller coaster in the world. They have it on the auction block for June 17-18 and have been insulting dismissive of ACE’s plan to save it on site, as summarized here on CNN’s irreport site along with some historic pictures of Big Dipper:

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-4020

2) By closing Geauga Lake after the season ended and without prior notice, they departed from the long-standing pattern of giving a month or more warning of a park closing (Astroworld, Erieview, Myrtle Beach Pavilion, Euclid Beach), despite making media statements last Spring that “the rumors of the demise of Geauga Lake, or that we’re slowly phasing it out, are completely untrue” and “Geauga Lake is here to stay.” There is strong resentment over this in the NE Ohio general public.

The situation would improve if Cedar Fair takes steps to seriously consider the ACE idea to preserve the Big Dipper on site along with the Geauga Lake ballroom as an amusement park museum to complement a shopping/entertainment area.

On the other hand, if Big Dipper is destroyed, the resulting backlash will make the negatively to date look mild.

]]> By: Jay Con http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60283 Jay Con Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:00:59 +0000 http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60283 Cedar Fair is a public relations nightmare. Dick Kinzel doesnt care what his guests or any other public person thinks about him or his company. He doesnt even care about his employees; my best example, is when I worked for Geauga Lake, I wanted to say hi to him, he nudge me and gave me a get back to work look. VERY RUDE. This company is in it for the money. That is very obvious. They run a very unethical business though, they do not follow there core values by any means. Geauga Lake was set up to close the day Cedar Fair bought it, that is obvious. I watched the park deconstruct itself in its final seasons. It was pitiful to see a great family park be set up to fail because a guy with money didnt want competition for his flagship park just 2 hours away. Cedar Fair did a good job on hiding there plans to the public, but did not fool enthusiasts nor there employees well. We saw it falling from the start. No rides, just refurbishments, repaints for rides instead of new ones. Little things to set the park up for closure and transfer most of the rides to there other parks. Cedar Fair even cut off the Haunt after its first season, not because they didnt make money; but because Geauga Lake had a higher turnout then Halloweekends at Cedar Point....Ooops Kinzel, did Geauga Lake win not Cedar Point? Dick says no way, that piece of crap park cannot beat my favorite overrated park in the world. Cedar Fair is pure BS. They lie to the public. There not ethical at all of how they do business. All they care about is the money when it all comes down to it, not there guests. There service is horrible! They paint commericals and adveretisements over there bull to cover this. People look at the big picture. Cedar Fair is a public relations nightmare. Dick Kinzel doesnt care what his guests or any other public person thinks about him or his company. He doesnt even care about his employees; my best example, is when I worked for Geauga Lake, I wanted to say hi to him, he nudge me and gave me a get back to work look. VERY RUDE. This company is in it for the money. That is very obvious. They run a very unethical business though, they do not follow there core values by any means.
Geauga Lake was set up to close the day Cedar Fair bought it, that is obvious. I watched the park deconstruct itself in its final seasons. It was pitiful to see a great family park be set up to fail because a guy with money didnt want competition for his flagship park just 2 hours away. Cedar Fair did a good job on hiding there plans to the public, but did not fool enthusiasts nor there employees well. We saw it falling from the start. No rides, just refurbishments, repaints for rides instead of new ones. Little things to set the park up for closure and transfer most of the rides to there other parks. Cedar Fair even cut off the Haunt after its first season, not because they didnt make money; but because Geauga Lake had a higher turnout then Halloweekends at Cedar Point….Ooops Kinzel, did Geauga Lake win not Cedar Point? Dick says no way, that piece of crap park cannot beat my favorite overrated park in the world.
Cedar Fair is pure BS. They lie to the public. There not ethical at all of how they do business. All they care about is the money when it all comes down to it, not there guests. There service is horrible! They paint commericals and adveretisements over there bull to cover this. People look at the big picture.

]]> By: Ben http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60277 Ben Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:23:33 +0000 http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60277 Thats not true... Cedar Fair is a very good company that tries hard to make the environment amazing for its guests. Just because it has become the biggest, its popular to hate them... i personally love them.. and they are a heck of a lot less of a rip off on prices than any other parks... Thats not true… Cedar Fair is a very good company that tries hard to make the environment amazing for its guests. Just because it has become the biggest, its popular to hate them… i personally love them.. and they are a heck of a lot less of a rip off on prices than any other parks…

]]> By: William http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60265 William Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:56:04 +0000 http://www.coasterdom.com/2008/03/31/weekly-topic-cedar-fair-the-new-company-to-hate/#comment-60265 Cedar Fair is just a money rich buisness who cares less about the public and our tastes. Sounds like they need a little work. But who knows, they might spring back. We'll see what the future holds. Cedar Fair is just a money rich buisness who cares less about the public and our tastes. Sounds like they need a little work. But who knows, they might spring back. We’ll see what the future holds.

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